June 2003 Ah yes, the hate mail. I knew I would get some eventually; so far, I've gotten hate mail from about 11 different people. Funny that Maddy fans would send me hate mail: you'd think they'd practice what Madonna preaches in her songs, you know, "love makes the world go 'round" and all that. Madonna is a media whore. In her estimation, there is no such thing as 'bad publicity,' so you know she would just love this site, so why would Madonna fans not follow their esteemed leader on this one? If you send me hate mail, yes, I just may feature it at the site, for all the world to see. - THIS INCLUDES YOUR NAME AND E-MAIL ADDRESS. In all the e-mails, my comments are in boldface type while the site visitor e-mail is not.

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One of the first entries here, a "jmc muzac," mistakes sarcasm for wit.

First, my general comments about this hate letter and then my response to him, is below this e-mail:

----- Original Message ----- From: jmc muzac <jmcmuzac@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 01:08:11 -0700 (PDT) To: [Flea Dip Site Owner] Subject: site suggestion :) Hello there, You have the following on your main page: Madonna thanks France for opposition to Iraq war -- ananova has since pulled this story, wonder why? The reason this was pulled was because it is a false news report. People who went to this show (and those who heard it on the radio or over the internet, like myself) were able to clarify that Madonna thanked France for supporting her single "American Life." Iraq or the war was never mentioned. Those sources, being a tad bit more important and reputable than yourself, were inclined to remove such banal anti-Madonna propaganda. I also suggest that on your "read this before sending insipid hate mail" page that you add the following fallacies, among others: > Hasty Generalization > Appeal to Spite > Begging the Question > Ad Hominem > Appeal to Authority > Red Herring > and most importantly, Personal Attack > I think it will help the Madonna fans and bored souls who visit your site for laughs (such as myself) realize what an idiotic point it is that you are trying to make with next to no objective information. Thank you. Your site was quite entertaining for me and my friends. I figured I'd oblige you with the attention you so desperately need since you provided me with such amusement. Viva Madonna! Regards, Zombie1

If, by his "Viva Madonna!" sign off he means to convey the idea "long live Madonna," he is in dire need of this page: Madonna's Longevity: She'll Always Be on Top! Or Will She?

I do not know whether his account of the Ananova story is true or not. I never did see an official retraction statement by Ananova (other than a link entitled "Story Withdrawn" on the page where the article formerly resided), nor did Ananova explain why the article was removed.

Why else would Madonna be thanking France for support of her 'American Life' single if it were not for the fact that France, like Madonna, was against American involvement in Iraq? I suppose it is too much to ask a Madonna fan to Get A Clue.

Even supposing for one moment that Madonna did not thank France for opposing the war in Iraq, or was not against American intervention in Iraq, there are still many other reasons to hate her guts.

A trend I have spotted in some of the hate mails I have received is that some of these Madonna fans are overlooking that I have not made any grand claims for my anti- Madonna site.

It is, simply, a site where I have fun taking pot shots at Madonna, pointing out where she is a hypocrite and a slut in order to bring home the point that she should not be admired.

Liberal entertainers such as Madonna should not be given a larger platform from which to cram their political, religious, and moral philosophies down the public's throats.

This is a site where I am able to express my own views on various subjects that Madonna comments on in interviews, or by way of her pop songs.

Madonna herself once sang a song of female empowerment called "Express Yourself." One would think that Madonna fans would support a female such as myself who is "Expressing herself" on this site. Madonna maniacs cannot seem to spot hypocrisy, though.

The web is a great leveling field. Madonna may be able to get her views heard widely on television and in major magazines, but on the web, I too can be heard by many people.

My site is a large 'op ed' (opinion / editorial) piece. What I usually do is mention a news item by some news organization that featured Madonna and use that as a jumping- off point.

I do not claim anywhere that I am a professional journalist tracking down original news tid bits about Madonna.

What I am doing with this site is more along the lines of 'social commentary.'

Taking all this into consideration, then, "jmc muzac's" sarcastic comments about me supposedly needing 'attention' (in that I must have a large ego) or me not being a 'reputable' source, etc., are groundless.

If anyone needs attention, it is Madonna, who is one of the world's biggest narcissists.

I did respond to this "jmc muzac" individual, but as I have stated in an auto- response e-mail I sometimes send out from my antimadonna e-mail address, I do not like to respond to these idiots who worship an untalented, unoriginal, anti- American whore.

Here is the copy of the e-mail I sent to this individual:

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Submission number 2:

From: "Charlotte Vanraes" [Visit the Anti-Madonna Board to get this person's E-Mail Address! It's in a post in the "Madonna Blows Chunks" forum] Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:11:47 +0200 To: <[Flea Dip Site Owner]> Subject: > Why do you feel so great when you can make an anti site? You probably don't even have read a biography from The queen of pop! Your site is based on lies! ON gossip! I hope you know that 90% of your site are not true! Why wasting your time getting many haters yourself? There are very much Madonna fans who'll hate you now, is that what you want? People that are gonna hate you? And why do you want to get some attention of a site like this anyways? It's so dum! I hate many stars, Jlo for example, I wish she was dead, like many people, but do they make an anti site? NO! So you better dont do this too, for your own good__and please, get a life! Madonna has many fans, britney, xtina, pink, gwen stefani, some rock bands, justin timberlake, kylie minogue....And those are artists that got inspired by Madonna's work so you better shut up!!!

As we can easily see, this is another case of a Madonna fan popping off before getting all her facts. I already have responses to the "get a life" sort of complaints on the FAQs page.

I am 32 years old and other than one single by "Pink," I do not listen to J Lo, Britney, Kylie and so on. I grew up being subjected to Madonna since the release of her first debut album back in 1983. I take it, then, that this "Charlotte Vanraes" is what, about 15 years old, maybe early 20s?

I also most note with irony how this person goes on to say that such- and- such a celebrity has been 'inspired' by Madonna, but that she obviously did not even reflect upon the series of pages I have under the "Unoriginal Girl" section of the site, which show how Madonna has ripped off everyone from Debbie Harry (who has probably inspired many more singers than Madonna ever has or will) to Marlon Brando.

As I mention on the "Introduction" page, there are, as of May and June 2003, many, many anti- Britney Spears sites on the web but only one about Madonna (not counting mine).

Other than the occasional bad Madonna movie review, one does not come across too many anti- Madonna pages on the web or even in magazines or the newspaper. Probably because Madonna has fallen out of popularity; she is irrelevant.

I do not make anything up about Madonna at the site, and no, most of my information about Madonna is not "90% gossip." Most of the stories on the site are a matter of public record.

Madonna has quite openly been a slutty little tart in the public eye going back to the early 1980s -- she used to believe it was her duty or right to offend people by playing with her crotch in her music videos and concerts and pulling other, similar raunchy stunts. She's had at least one bastard -- she was not married when she had her first kid. More examples could be cited, but you get the idea.

The bottom line is that I have provided the sources for the quotes I make to demonstrate that I am not lying about any of the information at the site.

The truth suffices; Madonna makes herself look bad.

I have no need or desire to lie about anything Madonna has said or done -- as a matter of fact, that is one of the reasons I hate her guts. Madonna is a mega- whore, and one who has used people throughout her career, and yet some feminists hold her up as a role model, which is something I find utterly disgusting.